An afternoon with Ellen Page in Rio

From the left: William Fairman, Niall Kenny, Ellen Page, Ian Daniel, Doug Martin
By Sergio Viula
I can
consider myself a lucky man to have had such a wonderful conversation with those
good fellows, and here go my most sincere compliments to each and every one of
them.
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Update on 01/04/25
Unfortunately, the content was not aired because the broadcaster chose to give visibility to the nonsense Bolsonaro was saying.
Ellen Page underwent a transition and is now known as Elliot Page. Check out this article: https://news.sky.com/story/ellen-page-comes-out-as-transgender-and-changes-name-to-elliot-12148275
In any case, I wouldn’t miss the opportunity to record this fantastic meeting, during which we talked for over two hours, recording everything directly in English, with Elliot (then Ellen) getting emotional at several moments.
The conversation revolved around my activism against the so-called gay conversion therapies and my coming out after having been a pastor and suffering greatly while involved in that movement. I had the opportunity to share with Elliot Page the journey of coming out and how I freed myself from all those struggles.
The interview took place in February 2015 in the bucolic neighborhood of Urca in Rio de Janeiro.
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